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needs to be done are to some degree separate things but i do know that we have had a lot of programs, government-funded program that is represent both sides of the aisle. both sides want everything they want and found a way with this congress over the last several years to get much of what they want and we bought it on credit. and the time has come, because we have enormous debt and raise taxes and pay the bill. >> my gut feeling is, i think the argument of the mont, see the republicans pushed in to this impossible situation for them to win where two thirds of americans in the polls are quite happy for the rich 2% to be taxed more and the republicans boxed themselves in to a position come january 1st they might be allowing all the middle class taxable to try to save the skins of americans. that won't wash with the public, is it? >> i don't think it's washing with the public. i think we need a more realistic definition of what wealth is. there are people who have jobs, both parents are working, they're putting the kids through schools, they don't have faith in the public schools in the community they're
needs to be done are to some degree separate things but i do know that we have had a lot of programs, government-funded program that is represent both sides of the aisle. both sides want everything they want and found a way with this congress over the last several years to get much of what they want and we bought it on credit. and the time has come, because we have enormous debt and raise taxes and pay the bill. >> my gut feeling is, i think the argument of the mont, see the republicans...
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speaking of secrets wal-mart has a few of its own the company shelled out millions to lobby for the government to roll back regulations that's also good at keeping scandals quiet coming up a look at wal-mart's big business blitz. and putting a face to the afghan war a select u.n. committee has asked me to that hundreds of afghan teens were held in a military prison many of them under the age of sixteen and seized from their homes are to questions why these youth were held without being charged with any crimes. it's tuesday december eleventh eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching r.t.e. . we begin today with a report that could shed some light on the dark practice of torture and this week the senate intelligence committee is said to vote on a report that details the use of enhanced interrogation techniques under the bush administration now this includes everything from stress positions to waterboarding much of it said to have happened at the guantanamo bay prison the roughly six thousand page report has been in the works for three years now the senate is finally votin
speaking of secrets wal-mart has a few of its own the company shelled out millions to lobby for the government to roll back regulations that's also good at keeping scandals quiet coming up a look at wal-mart's big business blitz. and putting a face to the afghan war a select u.n. committee has asked me to that hundreds of afghan teens were held in a military prison many of them under the age of sixteen and seized from their homes are to questions why these youth were held without being charged...
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a new gallup poll shows 62% want government leaders to compromise on the fiscal cliff. just 25% said they should stick to their principles. so why is it that this congress and this white house can't seem to get together and compromise on a deal? it certainly isn't the first time republicans and democrats haven't seen eye-to-eye on an important issue but the players in this debate seem to be almost allergic to budging even a little bit. republican senator john mccain says it hasn't always been that way and it's time for both sides to sit down together. >> it's time now to sit across the table from one another rather than me saying what i could accept and wouldn't accept, why don't we have the president and our leaders, republican and democrat, sit across the table the way they did with bill clinton, the way they did with ronald reagan, and the way you get things done in washington, rather than saying hey, would you stick with grover norquist or would you not or would you address entitlements or not. i believe it's vital that we address the entitlements, who are the eleph
a new gallup poll shows 62% want government leaders to compromise on the fiscal cliff. just 25% said they should stick to their principles. so why is it that this congress and this white house can't seem to get together and compromise on a deal? it certainly isn't the first time republicans and democrats haven't seen eye-to-eye on an important issue but the players in this debate seem to be almost allergic to budging even a little bit. republican senator john mccain says it hasn't always been...
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right there are 47% who are with him, dependent on him, who believe they are victims who believes the government has responsibility to care for them. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them they should take person responsibility for their lives. >> that catering group that locked in that camera and picked it up. >> 67 seconds versus a billion dollars in coke and rove and advertising and everything else. one person on their own. don't tell your kids at home they can't make a difference. one person on their own undid. >> what was it? a cell phone? why do you think it had such bounce in the campaign? >> i think two things. i think it confirmed the narrative the people had already established. i think using the term 47%. if he said half the people, or a lot of americans, his clinical passionate precise description. >> i think david is right. it was the precision of it. and the fact that he really believes it. he still does. he has been thinking about this. he still believes it. >> he found a stat on this he just loved. what a great show this has been. thank you, eu
right there are 47% who are with him, dependent on him, who believe they are victims who believes the government has responsibility to care for them. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them they should take person responsibility for their lives. >> that catering group that locked in that camera and picked it up. >> 67 seconds versus a billion dollars in coke and rove and advertising and everything else. one person on their own. don't tell your kids...
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what they came up with, they called the government accountability board. remember during the recall effort for scott walker in the state? remember when they turned in a million signatures to start that recall? it was that government accountability board that those signatures got turned in to. that's who received the signatures. that's who had to do the counting. and in the interests of transparency, the board set up a 24-hour web cam so, anybody could see at any time of day or night what they were doing with those million signatures. and while elections themselves are exciting and competitions between competing ideas and competing entities are exciting things, and there can be a ton of energy around the democratic process, the literal process of making sure that the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed and the forms are counted right and the things are all filled in, that is not exciting. that in fact should be this boring on purpose. and if the web cam was any judge, this really was that boring. day and night it looked like this. you know, you don't wan
what they came up with, they called the government accountability board. remember during the recall effort for scott walker in the state? remember when they turned in a million signatures to start that recall? it was that government accountability board that those signatures got turned in to. that's who received the signatures. that's who had to do the counting. and in the interests of transparency, the board set up a 24-hour web cam so, anybody could see at any time of day or night what they...
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his government is going to fall. i think the policy that the administration is following on syria is absolutely the right policy to follow and i think the american people are going to demand more and more that there be a significant before we engage. >> let me ask you about last week's news about israel deciding that in response to it, they're going to build settlements which would essentially make a contiguous -- snienk that's extraordinarily regrettable and regrettable for israel because israel cannot continue to be both a democratic and a jewish state if it stays in occupation of all of those lands. the demographics are such that that can't happen. so they're risking their status as both a democratic and jewish state. what are they going to choose? are they going to choose to be a jewish state or a democratic state. in a two-state solution it would be really extraordinarily sad if settlement activity got so rampant and so extensive that it closed the opportunity for a two-state solution. >> you're the last adminis
his government is going to fall. i think the policy that the administration is following on syria is absolutely the right policy to follow and i think the american people are going to demand more and more that there be a significant before we engage. >> let me ask you about last week's news about israel deciding that in response to it, they're going to build settlements which would essentially make a contiguous -- snienk that's extraordinarily regrettable and regrettable for israel...
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speaking of secrets wal-mart has a few of its own the company shelled out millions to lobby for the government to roll back regulations it's also good at keeping scandals quiet coming up we'll look at wal-mart's big business blitz. and if you thought those small seats on public buses invaded your personal space get ready for this homeland security is about to up the ante by installing microphones on public transit to record your conversations or you paid a bus fare will give you a couple reasons to keep your voice down. it's tuesday december eleventh five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz a wall and you're watching r t. we begin today with a report that could shed some light on the dark practice of torture this week the senate intelligence committee is set to vote on a report that details the use of enhanced interrogation techniques under the bush administration this includes everything from stress positions to waterboarding much of it said to have happened at the guantanamo bay prison the roughly six thousand page report has been in the works for three years now the senate is finally voting
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the federal government requires us to pay billions to take care of it. governor pete wilson sent the national guard to help the border patrol. >> so he won that election. it's 18 years ago, not 30 years ago, and he won. but the way we look at immigration now is so completely different, and it's why the republicans lost. so how do they turn it into the pro dream act party in california? >> they can start talking about the issue in a more humane way, and not be so mean-spirited about it. if they soften the rhetoric but they also have to change the policy, and there are some small groups in the los angeles area, starting to get elected to local offices. they are looking 20 years down the road to try to rebuild the party, and it's a very small step. >> yeah and it sort of takes california out of the national stage. >> they are totally out of play on both sides. it's actually a money saver for the democrats. >> it is. but the problem with the supermajority is they are the only ones to blame. we are seeing that now. congress is being blamed now the republican
the federal government requires us to pay billions to take care of it. governor pete wilson sent the national guard to help the border patrol. >> so he won that election. it's 18 years ago, not 30 years ago, and he won. but the way we look at immigration now is so completely different, and it's why the republicans lost. so how do they turn it into the pro dream act party in california? >> they can start talking about the issue in a more humane way, and not be so mean-spirited about...
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i do know that we've had a lot of programs, government funded programs for years now that represent both sides of the aisle, both sides want everything they want. and both sides have found a way with this congress over the last several years to get much of what they want. and we bought it on credit. and the time has come because we have enormous debt where we have to raise taxes and pay the bill. >> this is my gut feeling. you see the republicans being pushed into this impossible situation for them to win where two-thirds of americans and all the poles are happy for the rich 2% to be taxed more. the republicans boxed them into position where come january 1st, they might be allowing all the little class to be taxable to try to save the skins of very wealthy americans. that's not going to wash with the public, is it? >> i don't think it is washing with the public. >> we need a more realistic definition of what we will sj. parents are both working and putting their kids through schools zloevenlt faith in the public schools and the community they're in and they have the topgs go to private s
i do know that we've had a lot of programs, government funded programs for years now that represent both sides of the aisle, both sides want everything they want. and both sides have found a way with this congress over the last several years to get much of what they want. and we bought it on credit. and the time has come because we have enormous debt where we have to raise taxes and pay the bill. >> this is my gut feeling. you see the republicans being pushed into this impossible...
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they want certainty predictability from our government. they realize that our taxes are going to be up a little bit. they know there is going to reform to social security and medicare, they want to know so they know how to plan for their companies. i hope it's resolved before i get there if not so be it, i see this as an opportunity for america to lead the way. china is slowing down. india is slowing down. europe is in a recession. south america is slowing down. we have an opportunity to lead out of this mess. i hope we take the lead. >> jennifer: everyone wants to prevent going over over the cliff you still will have a lot of issues on how best to lead the country forward. allen west will be gone but there will be tea partyers remain. how do you work with people who think compromise is a bad word? >> look, i was just earlier with the republican part of my district today and met with a lot of republican commissioners. the message i told them is what i told everybody. whether you're a republican, democrat, i have an open door. i want to hea
they want certainty predictability from our government. they realize that our taxes are going to be up a little bit. they know there is going to reform to social security and medicare, they want to know so they know how to plan for their companies. i hope it's resolved before i get there if not so be it, i see this as an opportunity for america to lead the way. china is slowing down. india is slowing down. europe is in a recession. south america is slowing down. we have an opportunity to lead...
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two thousand and seven when wall street crashed our economy and there's a long history of the federal government bailing out broke cities republican president jerry ford for example loaned to new york city two billion dollars one hundred seventy five to help that city avoid going broke rather than spending billions maybe trillions on nation building in iraq and afghanistan by doing some nation building here at home and starting with detroit joining me now is pastor dia alexander bullock president of rainbow push detroit and president of the highland park michigan and be pastor bullock it is always great to have you had to be here to be here so so what do you make of councilwoman watson's appeal i know they're trashing her over at fox news and in the right wing. radio sphere of saying you know you know we voted for you know we want something back this is the you know whatever santa clause stuff or indeed it's not a santa clause comment the queen mother as we call her joanne watson has been on the battlefield for a long time and she stood with the people and she remembers coleman alexander young w
two thousand and seven when wall street crashed our economy and there's a long history of the federal government bailing out broke cities republican president jerry ford for example loaned to new york city two billion dollars one hundred seventy five to help that city avoid going broke rather than spending billions maybe trillions on nation building in iraq and afghanistan by doing some nation building here at home and starting with detroit joining me now is pastor dia alexander bullock...
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apparently so does the government! it doesn't matter if you're naughty or nice under the guidelines signed by the obama administration last spring. the national counterterrorism center can now collect information about any u.s. citizen, without any reason or cause in the name of counterterrorism. we're learning about this, more about this now because julie andwin of the "wall street journal" did a freedom of information request to find out was there even a debate most the administration about whether or not it would be allowed to take any government file, so anytime you have the government if your life, now that file could go to national counterterrorism center, for any reason. are you comfortable with that? >> greg: well, i like, i mean, i happen to enjoy surveillance but for reasons i can't get in to here. giving eric holder access is giving car keys to a kindergarten glass. why do i feel like she will be the ground game in 2016? we have imprisoned a filmmaker, expanded surveillance over america and used drones to ki
apparently so does the government! it doesn't matter if you're naughty or nice under the guidelines signed by the obama administration last spring. the national counterterrorism center can now collect information about any u.s. citizen, without any reason or cause in the name of counterterrorism. we're learning about this, more about this now because julie andwin of the "wall street journal" did a freedom of information request to find out was there even a debate most the...
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not in the state, not to government. again, that gets us towards socialism. what goes beyond socialism is communism. i know i'm going to get slammed for speaking too bluntly about what's going on. >> there's sean hannity getting history lessons from sarah palin. wonderful. >>> next, a bit of the postmortem from "mad men." what romney staffers nicknamed their campaign ad team. minchillo thinks they did a few things right. despite losing the election. first of all, he says, their in-house production operation allowed them to churn out ads in record time. but minchillo also says if you make the chinese news agency angry, i figure you're doing something right. romney drew the wrath of china's news agency for promising to label them a currency manipulator. unfortunately for the mad men, it wasn't just the chinese who were paying attention. a general motors spokesman accused them of entering into a parallel universe with that ad saying jeep was shipping american jobs over to china. >>> finally, a toddler takes in cnbc's fiscal
not in the state, not to government. again, that gets us towards socialism. what goes beyond socialism is communism. i know i'm going to get slammed for speaking too bluntly about what's going on. >> there's sean hannity getting history lessons from sarah palin. wonderful. >>> next, a bit of the postmortem from "mad men." what romney staffers nicknamed their campaign ad team. minchillo thinks they did a few things right. despite losing the election. first of all, he...
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he's simply saying let's not have another stop the government game, another hostage situation. how do you read what mcconnell said there? i think he misrepresented the president. >> i think there's a little bit of both on this. he sees an opportunity of making political hay. and i think the president says let's not have this fight anymore. we know how great they are at solving when there's no pressure solutions. they talk and talk. they say obviously the end of the year there's a pressure point with the fiscal cliff. they see the next pressure point being february with the debt limit to try to get some serious spending cuts and go after the big three entitlements to get what they want which is to lower deficit through spending cuts. >> let's go to mcconnell. he's not a popular guy anywhere. least of all right here. but let me ask you this. is he stupid? he's not a stupid man. why would he say he would stop the government, have us risk another lowered credit rating in order to cut programs which are essential to so many people like social security and medicare? >> to throw the d
he's simply saying let's not have another stop the government game, another hostage situation. how do you read what mcconnell said there? i think he misrepresented the president. >> i think there's a little bit of both on this. he sees an opportunity of making political hay. and i think the president says let's not have this fight anymore. we know how great they are at solving when there's no pressure solutions. they talk and talk. they say obviously the end of the year there's a pressure...
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it would just say when they do the federal government has to recognize them. the other is a challenge to proposition 8 in california. that's the voter passed initiative that barred same-sex marriage in that state. now, that law was overturned, prop 8 was, by a federal appeals court that said you can't give a right and then take it away like this. if the supreme court does nothing more than uphold that ruling, it would apply only to california. so it may or may not get to the fundamental question about whether all states have to allow same-sex couples to get married. it could use the prop 8 case to reset question, but it doesn't necessarily have to. we're going to wait and see how broadly the supreme court wants to delve into this. >> how long do we have to wait before we see? >> they'll argue the case in march. we won't get the answer until late june. >> pete williams, always good to see you. >>> that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." >>> we are also covering marriage equality with equality matters. also on our agenda, wheels up. the president st
it would just say when they do the federal government has to recognize them. the other is a challenge to proposition 8 in california. that's the voter passed initiative that barred same-sex marriage in that state. now, that law was overturned, prop 8 was, by a federal appeals court that said you can't give a right and then take it away like this. if the supreme court does nothing more than uphold that ruling, it would apply only to california. so it may or may not get to the fundamental...
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remember how much he hates the government? maybe singing a little different tune today. >> it's because government's now telling them stop dreaming, stop striving. we'll take care of you. >> she gets the comedians laughing... >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say anything. >> only on current tv. >> cenk: the middle east is on fire, of course, what else is new, right? first we start in egypt where the new president has time to give himself unchecked powers with no oversight over his additions. tens of thousands of protestors marching on the palace. they've breached blockades barbed wire and it is a mess over there. they say this is the last stand and the last warning. over in syria the government is apparently moving its chemical weapons. now, of course is a red line for nato and the u.s. and even russia is concerned about this, saying if you use chemical weapons, then the intern
remember how much he hates the government? maybe singing a little different tune today. >> it's because government's now telling them stop dreaming, stop striving. we'll take care of you. >> she gets the comedians laughing... >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say anything. >> only on current tv. >>...
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that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had -- a chance. >> i'm joined by congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz tonight, of florida, chairwoman of the dnc. great to have you with us, congresswoman. >> great to be with you, ed, thank. >> now, those are two key players there on the republican party. one was on the ticket, the other was a florida senator. what do you make of this about-face and philosophical change and approach to the middle class. you buying it? >> well, it's not an about-face, not by a long shot. there is not much compassion in either of those conservatives. and you know, i think what mr. ryan and mr. rubio must think is, you know, that movie, "men in black"? there have been three "men in black" movies, and i think one of the coolest things about that movie that most people remember is that little device that erases people's memories. well, i think that paul ryan and marco rubio must believe that all america
that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had -- a chance. >> i'm joined by congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz tonight, of florida, chairwoman of the dnc. great to have you with us, congresswoman. >> great to be with you, ed, thank. >> now, those are two key players there on the republican party. one was on the ticket, the other was a florida senator. what do you...
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a bloated federal government that wants to spend too much to help the poor. >> government's approach has been to expand bureaucracy and spend lots of money on bloated top-down anti-poverty programs. we're trying to measure compassion by how much we spend not by how many people we help. >> the takeaway, we care. we care about the same things we always cared about -- cutting taxes and slashing the government. in "the daily beast" calling this attempt at rebranding, if you will, gaseous rhetoric. saying until these guys actually embrace some amount of policy change, it's same old, same old. >> you know i think rubio at least his suits fit better than paul ryan's suits do. watching them, on the one hand it's cool watching them being -- trying to be progressive. but it's -- these suits are ill-fitting these compassion -- sudden compassion for the poor. it's a little bit like listening to bloomberg speak spanish. >> nice try but awkward. >> i'm happy to hear paul ryan talking about the poor and i hope this is a trend in the republican party. >> i don't know -- if i were paul ryan's strateg
a bloated federal government that wants to spend too much to help the poor. >> government's approach has been to expand bureaucracy and spend lots of money on bloated top-down anti-poverty programs. we're trying to measure compassion by how much we spend not by how many people we help. >> the takeaway, we care. we care about the same things we always cared about -- cutting taxes and slashing the government. in "the daily beast" calling this attempt at rebranding, if you...
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the government is a staunchly secular one. they believe syria is engaged in what they consider a jihad or a holy war, and they're using that to rally muslims from all around the world to come and join the fight. western intelligence sources and others have reported on the participation of fighters from the caucuses, central asia, as well as from iraq and other neighboring countries. there's no doubt it is galvanizing many fighters to come and join what they say is a religious fight against secularism. >> we've heard talk of an increasingly desperate syrian government considering the use of chemical weapons against its own citizens. is this still a possibility or has president obama's warning been taken to heart by the authorities? >> well, it's extremely difficult to ascertain right now whether or not that is going to unfold like that. what we do know from western intelligence officials who have told nbc news is chemical weapons have been mixed at least in various military facilities in and around various parts of syria, but a
the government is a staunchly secular one. they believe syria is engaged in what they consider a jihad or a holy war, and they're using that to rally muslims from all around the world to come and join the fight. western intelligence sources and others have reported on the participation of fighters from the caucuses, central asia, as well as from iraq and other neighboring countries. there's no doubt it is galvanizing many fighters to come and join what they say is a religious fight against...
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certainly don't want the government to do that. so i think that that has really contributed within the party towards this movement. someone like an an dry brightbar was very vocal on this area, very supportive of gay and lesbian republicans, transgender republicans, bisexual republicans, so there's a growing network within the party of folks that recognize culturally where we are and that has very little to do with our politics. >> but the libertarian wing is barely even a wing of the conservative party. i mean -- >> it's not a libertarian wing. it's an attitude. it's the attitude. it's the core attitude. >> they are much more -- are much more wanting to regulate these things, and, you know, the will and grace and the dick cheney are huge -- have had a huge impact on how we look at gay marriage, and, you know, dick durbin was satisfying the future is marriage equality, and i think the future has really galloped along. i mean, it's amazing how far we've come. >> the future is here. >> yeah. >> the future is now. >> yeah. >> it's whe
certainly don't want the government to do that. so i think that that has really contributed within the party towards this movement. someone like an an dry brightbar was very vocal on this area, very supportive of gay and lesbian republicans, transgender republicans, bisexual republicans, so there's a growing network within the party of folks that recognize culturally where we are and that has very little to do with our politics. >> but the libertarian wing is barely even a wing of the...
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government works now. and why a man such as himself might want a particular job in washington at a time like this. listen to this part of the tape. this is where general petraeus makes his argument for why in particular running the cia would be a really good job to get. >> an awful lot of what we do in the future, believe it or not in libya right now, perhaps, is with that organization can do. we're going to be retrenching militarily. again, you're going to take big budget cuts and that's going to be all about -- it's going to be the post -- sort of the early 1990s kind of stuff. >> it will be the "peace dividend." >> the other folks on the other hand will be in a growth industry in our intelligence community. going to have to be. >> general petraeus telling fox news in this meeting he would be happy not just being named chairman of the joint chiefs, but with the cia director job because they are the same sized jobs or at least they are going to be. arguing that the future of national security in the unite
government works now. and why a man such as himself might want a particular job in washington at a time like this. listen to this part of the tape. this is where general petraeus makes his argument for why in particular running the cia would be a really good job to get. >> an awful lot of what we do in the future, believe it or not in libya right now, perhaps, is with that organization can do. we're going to be retrenching militarily. again, you're going to take big budget cuts and that's...
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it's government at the brink all the time. we don't know how the markets and the credit rating agencies will react. probably be bad ybut i think that's what you hear conservatives saying. >> erin, so far wall street for the most part reacting in a calm fashion. we know that could go out the window. no one knows what could happen and how long it would take for us to fall in to a recession. but with that said, our first read team points out you have to know when to hold 'em, when to fold 'em. the song, i'm a texan. he's a texan. did we see this coming all along to see a split dealing with the tax cuts first and then kicking the can as you heard congressman yarmuth say down the road and a.b. pointed out on the other major issues? >> well, for one thing, i would say that it's clearly going to get worse before it gets better. last week looked like potential for a deal sooner. i still think that many people on capital hill think there's potential to get a sizable deal but as you pointed out with rand paul and jim demint, they were n
it's government at the brink all the time. we don't know how the markets and the credit rating agencies will react. probably be bad ybut i think that's what you hear conservatives saying. >> erin, so far wall street for the most part reacting in a calm fashion. we know that could go out the window. no one knows what could happen and how long it would take for us to fall in to a recession. but with that said, our first read team points out you have to know when to hold 'em, when to fold...
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of the things that constrain the growth of government during that era was the people were afraid that they would have to pay more taxes if spending went up and now what has happened is they've said deficits don't matter all we want to do is starve the beast and cut taxes we don't really give a damn about spending and that is what really what has let the let the genie out of the bottle so the sobeys crazy republicans have actually created the foundation for the very deficits that they claim that they are opposed to you know when a scheme i worked for jude went to school and you know he in. seventy six wrote an article the two santa claus theory and very very probably the most important op ed article in history and basically. suggested that democrats had always been santa claus you know they they had social security and they had work place benefits and the republicans are always been screwed say no we can't afford that right and that the republicans had to become santa clauses and so the republicans became the tax cuts yes that was a suggestion the reagan administration virtually triple
of the things that constrain the growth of government during that era was the people were afraid that they would have to pay more taxes if spending went up and now what has happened is they've said deficits don't matter all we want to do is starve the beast and cut taxes we don't really give a damn about spending and that is what really what has let the let the genie out of the bottle so the sobeys crazy republicans have actually created the foundation for the very deficits that they claim that...
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at the core this is about asking americans to pay more americans to the federal government. this is just -- it's -- bill clinton called it kabuki theater. it's a way for republicans not to be ashamed and walk back the ideological core they've run on for the past few years. >> if president obama is able to come out and say i'm going to support getting rid of tax ducks for charitable organizations, hospitals, universities, religious organizations, i want to get rid of that tax deduction f he puts his finger -- his hand anywhere near that decision, he's going to be a loony toon every hospital, church, philanthropic in the united states, from the rockefeller down to the littlest catholic charity will fight that. they need those tax cuts to survive. it's a loony toon idea. i'm sorry. a little joke there. let me ask you this. let's take a look at president's last comment of the day. this is his response to gop's what i consider a face-saving proposal. here's the president. >> if congress in any way suggests they're going to tie votes to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink
at the core this is about asking americans to pay more americans to the federal government. this is just -- it's -- bill clinton called it kabuki theater. it's a way for republicans not to be ashamed and walk back the ideological core they've run on for the past few years. >> if president obama is able to come out and say i'm going to support getting rid of tax ducks for charitable organizations, hospitals, universities, religious organizations, i want to get rid of that tax deduction f...
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and they understand that what's being threatened is their ability to govern. they have priorities they have to get through. so he's got to actually exert a firmer hand. we're starting to see that with boehner. but howard is right. mcconnell has an election at stake. >> he hired rand paul's campaign manager to be his campaign manager in the upcoming race. >> i look at the democrats of this. the veterans of the senate, the old guard, the statesman. there was still respect available. it just seems lost today. >> you make a very important point. it's true of the baby boom generation. very few of them have the bonding national experience of being in the army.
and they understand that what's being threatened is their ability to govern. they have priorities they have to get through. so he's got to actually exert a firmer hand. we're starting to see that with boehner. but howard is right. mcconnell has an election at stake. >> he hired rand paul's campaign manager to be his campaign manager in the upcoming race. >> i look at the democrats of this. the veterans of the senate, the old guard, the statesman. there was still respect available....
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offer real and concrete policy solutions and a real role for government, appropriate role for government to play in addressing those anxieties. i think we're one election away from being able to do that. would always our but we have to do. we have to recognize what it is and concentrate. >> how much of a danger to the public is being proposed by this change is? >> i wouldn't call it a danger to i think it's a challenge. it's a challenge. like every election is a challenge. take what you stand for and tried to convince people that it's better for them to what the other side is offering. sometimes people have forgotten the article of persuasion. politics is not just being what people are for. sometimes politics should be but and oftentimes it should be but understand what is the right thing for the country and working hard to convince people that that is the right thing for country. that's an important part of the political process. it has gotten lost recently. [inaudible] >> look, there are a large number of hispanics will also happen to be liberal democrats. there's nothing wrong in tryi
offer real and concrete policy solutions and a real role for government, appropriate role for government to play in addressing those anxieties. i think we're one election away from being able to do that. would always our but we have to do. we have to recognize what it is and concentrate. >> how much of a danger to the public is being proposed by this change is? >> i wouldn't call it a danger to i think it's a challenge. it's a challenge. like every election is a challenge. take what...
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ain't to -- ability to dporch. -- govern. i agree very much with david what we need right now is a kind of down payment, making some progress, a down payment that probably involves the cuts on the spending side, and the pledged too -- to do much more later. the important thing to know about the proposals on the street right now is you can accept everything in the president's proposal,, accept everything speaker boehner's proposed, and you would not solve the budget problem for the longer run. in my judgment, you need twice what they have put on the table. i'm very troubled by the fact that we are gives the impression that we can solve this problem without imposing pain on the middle class. the president made that explicit, promising to never, ever raise taxes on the middle class, and, of course, the republicans would back him up on that, but there's no way charismatically you can solve the problem without everyone feeling something, and that certainly has to involve the middle class because that's where all the money is. as f
ain't to -- ability to dporch. -- govern. i agree very much with david what we need right now is a kind of down payment, making some progress, a down payment that probably involves the cuts on the spending side, and the pledged too -- to do much more later. the important thing to know about the proposals on the street right now is you can accept everything in the president's proposal,, accept everything speaker boehner's proposed, and you would not solve the budget problem for the longer run....
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will we build an economy that pays workers enough to support a family or will we use the government to subsidize people's wages through food stamps and other support. today, we're not doing either one. in michigan, i signed a bill to raise the minimum wage to $7.40 an hour. that was six years ago. it needs to be raised again. the federal minimum wage is lower than that. it is now just $7.25 an hour. try, just try imagine earning $7.25 an hour and paying a mortgage or rent try living on $7.25 an hour and buying food, much less acquiring transportation in some way. forget clothing. that's a total luxury. this is a moral issue. but it is also an economic issue that's going to determine the vitality of our nation's recovery from recession. joining me now are two champions of the living wage fight. jonathan westin, director of fast food forward an organization that helped organize the strikes in new york. and linda archer is a current mcdonald's employee who's joined in the fight for better wages. they're joining us from new york. great to have you both inside "the war room" to share your s
will we build an economy that pays workers enough to support a family or will we use the government to subsidize people's wages through food stamps and other support. today, we're not doing either one. in michigan, i signed a bill to raise the minimum wage to $7.40 an hour. that was six years ago. it needs to be raised again. the federal minimum wage is lower than that. it is now just $7.25 an hour. try, just try imagine earning $7.25 an hour and paying a mortgage or rent try living on $7.25 an...
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>> i think the elections have cons 0 againsts and the electorate has chosen divided government. they expect compromise and expect it from both sides. i don't think republicans should move on tax increases without significant movement on entitlements. >> you want to get something in return but go ahead and offer it. and right now they're not offering it. >> in order to get something done, people expect to get something done. both sides have to come to the middle. elections have consequences. both sides are going to have to give. right now i think you need to see significant reform on entitlements. >> maggie, who should own the entitlement plan, though? i do feel like we are -- we know a plan will get done, right? there's a small deal that punts us and we have the debt ceiling, or there is the big deal that maybe actually provides some relief. the big deal, who should open the entitlement? you do it, mrmt. and they're going, whoa, whoa, whoa, i'm not having this fight with my own base. >> i think that's the problem, right? in terms of who should own it. neither side, and i think t
>> i think the elections have cons 0 againsts and the electorate has chosen divided government. they expect compromise and expect it from both sides. i don't think republicans should move on tax increases without significant movement on entitlements. >> you want to get something in return but go ahead and offer it. and right now they're not offering it. >> in order to get something done, people expect to get something done. both sides have to come to the middle. elections have...
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that's why they're willing to shut down the government. they're not taking an oath to the constitution of the united states but an oath to grover norquist. if you do things like that you shouldn't have the right to try to continue to shut down the government and use the debt ceiling as a weapon. >> finally, congressman, there are reports the president may ask congress for $50 billion for hurricane sandy, you know, to cover costs of relief and rebuilding. do you expect that to even be held hostage as well by region sn -- republicans? >> yes, do i. >> so no agreement on fiscal cliff, no agreement on debt ceiling, no agreement on this either? >> that's because they are obstructionists. they've turned the win into a partisan political instrument. they've turned the weather into a partisan political instrument. we have a solution to thisç 37e have introduced a discharge petition. we think that we shouldn't be holding the middle class hostage. everyone agrees the first $250,000 in income should receive a tax increase. i believe it should be hi
that's why they're willing to shut down the government. they're not taking an oath to the constitution of the united states but an oath to grover norquist. if you do things like that you shouldn't have the right to try to continue to shut down the government and use the debt ceiling as a weapon. >> finally, congressman, there are reports the president may ask congress for $50 billion for hurricane sandy, you know, to cover costs of relief and rebuilding. do you expect that to even be held...
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government and harvard university. if you talk about where ideas are coming from, and where sort of american innovation is headquartered, obama won it handily by 43% he won santa clara county where the high-tech companies are centered. >> sometimes stereotypes hold true, right? one of the things that's interesting in the context of the fiscal cliff also is where not only financial companies not just the takers, but where ceos around the country cast their lot. one of the things that's interesting as january 1st approaches is to see, you know, the hysteria on cnbc and how that's adjusted. >> we're not saying anything bad about cnbc but go ahead. >> but do ceos continue to push a kind of, you know, low taxes mantra, kind of traditional fiscal sort of republican mantra or do they really say, we need a deal here, we're really to give and push republicans in that direction. >> and it would seem like they are willing to come to the table and meet the white house -- i mean first of all they lost basically. threw their lot wit
government and harvard university. if you talk about where ideas are coming from, and where sort of american innovation is headquartered, obama won it handily by 43% he won santa clara county where the high-tech companies are centered. >> sometimes stereotypes hold true, right? one of the things that's interesting in the context of the fiscal cliff also is where not only financial companies not just the takers, but where ceos around the country cast their lot. one of the things that's...